things God really wanted us to do
have been getting frustrated with youth group a fair bit this year.
i think it is because of the lack of real discipleship going on.
the focus seems to have run away from discipling young people to running youth group.
some people may look at my small group and think how can i say that when i spend most of my time playing sport with my group and little sitting in a group doing discussion like we are supposed to.
but the thing is, i don't see how once a fortnight spending time talking with a bunch of guys who don't want to talk about life yet would do any good.
the other thing is that i only have like 3 guys which is great cause it means i can give them all attention and i actually have enough time for each of them.
this has also had me thinking about Jesus and how he had Peter, James and John as his 3 closest disciples.
there was the 12 and there was the 3 too in that 12.
so did Jesus just leave the other 9 out a bit or did the 3 have 3 of there own or what?
see i have been thinking about the whole small group thing and how if there are 5-12 people in a small group what happens there?
how do you make sure everyone is pouring their lives into others.
i mean surely one leader doesn't have enough time to spend with 6 let alone 12 people, and really be making an impact in all their lives.
and if everyone in the group has people they are putting time and life into to help them continue to grow then how are they supposed to do this outside the group as well?
like ya know the rest of the world, those people that God left us on earth to go and make disciples of.
hmmm... sometimes i wonder if our Church is so tangled in the things that we decided were important to do that we have forgotten about the things God really wanted us to do.
i think it is because of the lack of real discipleship going on.
the focus seems to have run away from discipling young people to running youth group.
some people may look at my small group and think how can i say that when i spend most of my time playing sport with my group and little sitting in a group doing discussion like we are supposed to.
but the thing is, i don't see how once a fortnight spending time talking with a bunch of guys who don't want to talk about life yet would do any good.
the other thing is that i only have like 3 guys which is great cause it means i can give them all attention and i actually have enough time for each of them.
this has also had me thinking about Jesus and how he had Peter, James and John as his 3 closest disciples.
there was the 12 and there was the 3 too in that 12.
so did Jesus just leave the other 9 out a bit or did the 3 have 3 of there own or what?
see i have been thinking about the whole small group thing and how if there are 5-12 people in a small group what happens there?
how do you make sure everyone is pouring their lives into others.
i mean surely one leader doesn't have enough time to spend with 6 let alone 12 people, and really be making an impact in all their lives.
and if everyone in the group has people they are putting time and life into to help them continue to grow then how are they supposed to do this outside the group as well?
like ya know the rest of the world, those people that God left us on earth to go and make disciples of.
hmmm... sometimes i wonder if our Church is so tangled in the things that we decided were important to do that we have forgotten about the things God really wanted us to do.
posted by John M @ 9:55 pm
5 Comments:
At 21 August, 2005 17:24,
kelgell said…
WHat!! is junk mail getting into our blogs now?!! Ridiculous!
As for your post, we humans are so good at complicating life. We take the simple and get carried away until it's no longer simple. It's a good thing to keep thinking through what's important and check it to how we are living from time to time. May God guide you.
At 22 August, 2005 16:43,
Trav said…
Hey mate sorry to hear it's got ya down...get's me down a lot. Talk to you about it when i see you next.
At 24 August, 2005 16:50,
Anonymous said…
just a thought... seems to me Jesus discipled adults probably people around his own age - definitely all workers. Sometimes I think we need to let kids be kids, invest in their lives, model life (not just learning) and values and help them experience God's care and acceptance of them. All stuff I think happens when you play "football". I think another thing you pick up on is also true we can get so busy doing our own little things, tied up with our own little group we are not connecting with the world God calls us to :)
BTW how's RETRO coming along?
At 27 August, 2005 00:17,
John M said…
yeah there isn't any real way i could spend every day with the guys from youth group, so i don't have that time, but every week i do have with them, i like to make the most of, and Jesus had lots of other people crowding around him often, as well as times he went off by himself, and probably wanted to use every moment he had with his disciples to live a life that would change theirs.
At 28 August, 2005 17:08,
kelgell said…
I'm sure God's using you to impact their lives--though you may never see it. God is the one that does the changing remember. Even if they grow and move on without any real decision to follow Jesus, you have to trust that God will pursue them.
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